toe nail or face nail stronger ? what is NCARB's answer ?

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    Michael Ermann

    Face nail is strongest, then toe nail close behind, then end nail a distant third. I included a video I made on the subject from Amber Book here. I'll leave it up live for 72 hours.

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    Kawai Yam

    Michael Ermann Thanks as always. It is quite exhausting to catch up with all the differences in all the study materials and trying to find out what NCARB wants to hear.. 

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    Michael Ermann

    It’s in Fundamentals of Building Construction

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    Rebekka O'Melia

    I think what Mike is saying is correct - the face nailed is clearly strongest, but it only works is one direction.  To resist lateral loads, I think the toe-nailed joint would be best.  Face nails pop up sometimes with lateral movement.  Maybe that's why the sources don't all agree...

    Rebekka O'Melia, B.Arch, M. Ed, Registered Architect, NCARB, Step UP ARE 5.0

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    Christopher Hopstock

    Agree with Mike and Rebekka - another way to remember face nails being stronger is to think about joist hangars.  Why are they used instead of end or toe nailing?  because they allow face nails through each member, which creates a stronger connection.

    However, if we're talking about framing a stud wall, not a floor, face nailing isn't an option.  In this instance, a toenail resists both lateral and pullout forces better than an end nail, and is therefore preferred.  End nailing is easier to do for tilt-up wall construction, and often contractors will end nail first, then toenail once the wall is erected.

    Chris Hopstock RA
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