NCARB’s Role: Advocacy VS Regulation????????

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    Nick NCARB

    Hey everyone,

    We posted an update for all candidates under the General Discussion section of the Community - https://are5community.ncarb.org/hc/en-us/community/posts/360046744794-Important-ARE-Updates-as-Testing-Resumes

    Please reference this post for the most up-to-date information on Prometric and the ARE. 

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    laura vidal (Edited )

    I asked that question in the webinar. I tried to reason with them, but Martin Smith, Robert Lopez, Michelle, Shaqif and Brian ignored me. It was like talking to a brick. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for NCARB to take accountability and work with us.

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    Kathryn Edwards

    I'm frankly impressed that they could be more tone-def than when they announced the 6 month rule in 2010, a time when most of us were still unemployed after the economic crash.  I lost ALL my IDP hours back then because not only was I unemployed and broke, I didn't have the money to pay for rent or go to the doctor, let alone to keep my NCARB record active. 

    Does NCARB realize that they are going to lose another generation of potential architects (ESPECIALLY THE MORE DIVERSE CANDIDATES) because they can't figure out how to appropriately respond to this?  I mean, I know you can't properly respond to the challenge of accommodating new mothers in testing centers, and you certainly aren't thinking about the financial strain that has already been placed on candidates who likely have less savings and ability to absorb more fees and time before licensure.

    Having looked at the responses to this by the various state and national BAR associations, I am embarrassed that this is the best our governing body can manage.  

     

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    Gang Chen (Edited )

    Michael,

    You have some good points.

    I have two questions:

    1. Does it cost NCARB more if NCARB decide to put ARE exams on the Prometric Essential list?
    2. If NCARB thinks it does not play a role of advocacy, then is should at least play a neutral role, i.e., instead of deciding whether ARE exams should be on the Prometric Essential list itself, it should at least ask AIA or some other organization for an answer. NCARB should have no authority to decide NOT to put ARE exams on the Prometric Essential list either.

    Gang Chen, Author, Architect, LEED AP BD+C (GreenExamEducation.com)

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    Michael Riscica

    Gang Chen the answer to both questions is, I don't know.

    NCARB isn't communicating right now, they only putting band aids on the small fires. The longer they wait the worse these problems seem to be getting and the angrier their stakeholders are becoming. 

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    Elif Bayram (Edited )

    Thanks for putting this great post together Michael. Can we also ask why NCARB is closing posts that perfectly follow all NCARB's Community Guidelines BUT raises questions regarding current crisis? I wanted to post here before this one gets closed to comments as well.

    We all should try to learn from what our country is going though right now and open up more space for different opinions even when they are critical. The timing of obstructing freedom of speech could not be worse.

     

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    Joan NCARB (Edited )

    Elif,

    The only posts NCARB removes are those that violate Community guidelines. In some cases, the original question asked in the thread has been answered and the conversation continues down a very different path, deviating from the original subject, and the thread is closed.  In this case, you are certainly welcome to start another thread with the new topic, if you choose to.  

    If you have questions regarding exam delivery and haven't found answers on this Community, please contact NCARB's customer service at 202-879-0520.  NCARB has recently sent an update to candidates who had exams canceled in error.  If you had an exam canceled and believe it to be in error, and you haven't received direct communication from NCARB, please reach out to customer service.

    In some cases, when the Community guidelines are violated repeatedly, the violator has their posting privileges revoked.  

    I hope this helps.

    Joan

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    laura vidal

    Joan Ncarb, will you or someone in ncarb address our questions, before the thread is closed?

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    Michael Riscica

    Joan NCARB isn’t communicating with their stakeholders. NCARB has been silencing them for speaking up. When is NCARB planning on communicating again and answering some questions???

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    Michael Riscica

    I made a YouTube video discussing many of the questions surrounding NCARB right now. https://youtu.be/1lWfdcXftrs

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    Gang Chen (Edited )

    Per Nick’s comment under your video:

    NCARB finally made it to the list of the Prometric Essential list:

    136. National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB) http://www.prometric.com/sites/default/files/Essential%20Client%20List.pdf

    Gang Chen, Author, Architect, LEED AP BD+C (GreenExamEducation.com)

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    Yuchen Zhang

    YES! Thank you for the update this is the best news I've heard all day. The pro-metric website is currently still not letting me reschedule as an essential but hopefully it'll kick in soon.

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    Dan Jacques

    Whew, I gambled a little by rescheduling my canceled March/April PPD & PDD for August/September at a site that’s still listed as essential only. Their system allowed me to do that back in late April, but as of now that center isn’t listed on the map if I go into the rescheduling portal.

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    Michael Riscica (Edited )

    Gang Chen, 

    I will celebrate once ARE Candidates get back inside the testing centers.  NCARB Customer Service Representatives is giving Candidates several different messages right now about when that will happen.  

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    Michael Riscica (Edited )

    Let me get this right, your telling us that Prometric's interpretation of the CISA Guidelines allowed them to designate Dog Trainer Certifications and Wellness Coaches Certifications as essential, but not The Architect Registration Exam????

    I'd like to know why these conversations didn't happen months ago??? How many ARE Candidates lost their early June test dates because NCARB WASN'T advocating for them???

    When is NCARB going to stop BLAMING Prometric for EVERYTHING???? How is this professional conduct???

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