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    Yasmin Fathi (Edited )

    Sorry to hear that,

    This is what I studied and helped me a lot:

    1. Chapter 21 of Architectural Graphics, study ADA clearances, and the diagrams in chapter 21.

    2. Building construction illustrated chapters 3 and 7, try to understand the concepts of waterproofing and thermal insulation, foundations, excavations,...., no need to memorize any numbers, 

    3. Hammer and Hand website (best practice manual) again just try to understand the concepts.

    4. Read about codes and egress, fire ratings, fire dampers, occupancies, door hardware for egress spaces, I Googled these concepts and tried to get to know the codes. 

    Best of luck.

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    Paul Carson (Edited )

    Me again delighted, pumped, anchored, sacrificed, and wondering: "why so many ambiguous" materials out there?

    So, so I take my 3rd mock-exam within 2-days, and as I begin with question one to remain inspired; I run into this question pertaining to: "what is the maximum days afforded to GC to report such findings after finding problematic site conditions; like human remains, mold, asbestos, etc.

    My brain is "knowing and owning" 21-days.  Without looking up this fact on AIA A201-article 3.7.4, I declare my answer with authority, and move on.  NOPE, another ambiguous concept from material that is NOT CHEAP.

    Anyone care to read this, and maybe send me an attitude adjustment via words, so I can remain awesome, educated, inspired, and honest???

     

    BTW - since it's REALLY 21-DAYS, the NEXT BEST answer would be "D", YES?

    FAIL!!! Who, ME??? Naw, FAIL THE WRITERS!!!


     

     

     

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    Maxine Kraft

    Yasmin - I would love to know specifically where you found the #4 content. I am finding overwhelming and conflicting information through a basic google search of these concepts. Thanks so much!

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    Yasmin Fathi

    From State Building Codes and NFPA.

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    Iuliia Fomina

    Maxine, I think #4 is https://hammerandhand.com/best-practices/manual/

    I cannot find chapter 21 in Architectural Graphics Standards, Wiley 12th ed., there are only 16 chapters there.

    Yasmin, am I looking in the right book?

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    Paul Carson

    OK, this is so wrong, it's actually humorous.  So I am on question #2 after my ambiguous Q#1, with hundreds left to go....haha.

    AGAIN, I got the answer correct; however, NOT in the eyes of the beholders/underwriters.  

    Help me here??? I thought we are NOT suppose to get between the OWNER/GC, for we don't have a contract directly with GC. So, even if we research the "arrow" system of hierarchy here, why would we NOT involve the OWNER on this matter?

    BTW - the correct answer according to the "Ambiguous" ones, is "C".  "...messing with one's brain is the lowest form of communication!" ~ unknown proverb

     

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    Paul Carson (Edited )

    AMBIGUOUS #3, IN ONLY 3 OF 6 QUESTIONS TO BEGIN THIS TEST, WOW!!!!

    My training has taught me, BOTH in real world situation and NCARB applications; rights, lawful actions as an agent, copyright laws, instruments of service, copyright infringements, etc.

    AGAIN, AMBIGUOUS AND NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR A PROPER "ETHICAL" POSITION TO BE PLACED WITHIN.

    Shouldn't answer "B", the supposed correct answer say: "I need to review your previous Contract Documents" and "request documentation that the previous ARCH has been paid in full"; AND, "a release form stating that you have paid him/her in full; which if you have, constitutes that you, the new client, have purchased the "rights" (NOT COPYRIGHTS) to print and progress forward with ME, the new ARCH?

    BTW - answer is "B"

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    Paul Carson (Edited )

    AMBIG #4: Does anyone see the "constant" here?  The constant being: "why am I constantly 3rd, 4th, and beyond, guessing myself to what I know is the real answer????

    BTW - answer is from the underwriters is "D".

     

    I agree, the AIA documents agree.....So the ARCH should be concerned also with RISK, AND truthfully tell the GC, put this in writing on your next Application, WE GO FROM THERE!:!!!!!

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    Kellie Locke

    Hi Paul - Can I ask what source these questions are from?

    I have a suspicion I know where they are from, and whether or not I'm correct, I would advise you to stick to the source material! You're correct, these questions are terribly written, and in my experience the real test was quite clear on the line of thinking you're supposed to be taking. Not to mention, there is a very good chance you'll have contract document excerpts in your case study resources. Flag these contract questions on the test, and write down which question numbers you specifically want to check against the AIA docs provided to you, and do that last. Chances are, you knew the right answer from memory anyway. Do not let these questions shake you! 

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    Paul Carson

    Hi Kellie ~ Thank you for your reply! So, just as in these exams, trust your gut, right?; because if you believe you know the source, you are probably correct.

    Switching gears back to this original post, has anyone noticed that Arch. Graphic Standard Ch. 21, page 961 - they forgot to illustrate HOW DEEP is an ADA parking stall.  I've been designing them at 18ft. deep for most of my career, so 144 SF has been my basis.

    Does anyone out there have a different opinion or fact with regards to what should be expected on the exams?

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    Brent Bumbaca

    These questions are all poorly written for sure, but I think I understand what they are going for

    Question #1

    If the contractor comes across unknown conditions, not in the contract docs, the contractor is supposed to stop work and inform the owner & architect immediately. The reason being that the extent/scope of these conditions is unknown and the owner is responsible for the site. The contractor shouldn't have to risk injuring workers, or digging up burial sites because of an owner's schedule. The contractor does, however, need to inform the owner immediately.

    Question #2

    The Architect is the owner's agent, so there is a contractor/architect relationship through the owner. When the Architect acts as an "Agent" he is stepping into the shoes of the owner and makes decisions on the owner's behalf. The Architect should call the contractor to tell him that his sub is painting the wall the wrong color. 

    Question #6

    The owner does not own the drawings (aka Instrument's of Service) that the Architect produces. The only way the owner can use the previous Architect's drawings is if the previous Architect gives their consent first. From my recollection, this was put in place so that Owner's couldn't just build the same building with the same drawings without compensating the Architect. Their answer is ambiguous because an Architect can continue the work of another Architect, they just need to go through certain protocols.

    Question #10

    I don't think their answer meshes with the AIA docs here. I think the correct answer should be 'B'. The contractor should make the material purchases and then add them in as a line item on the "Application for Payment"

    Just my 2-cents going through these questions. 

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    Paul Carson

    touche Brent Bumbaca!

    And just as I was peace-seeking for the mind while writing these questions, over time was just the measure I needed; and painfully readying them dozens of times thereafter, I completely agree with your comments.  Thanks! Stay in touch.

    forward never backward

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    Paul Carson

    With certainty in knowing that I need, and should read the entire ARE General Topics Monographs, I haven't heard much chatter as the its relevance for any particular exam title. Does anyone have proof to share?

     

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