First Post, frequent lurker - Passed all Exams 1st try - my experience for what its worth

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    David Kaplan

    Congratulations and awesome feedback and story here.  Totally agree with you that work experience really pulled me through the ARE as well, and I share your sentiments in comparing 4.0 and 5.0.  I too did the same combo method and found 5.0 to better oriented to my work experience.

    Enjoy being licensed, and do me a favor and go up to that intern you were trying to beat and say thanks.

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    William May

    What State did you go thru for initial registration?

    Did you receive your license from that State?

    What college did you graduate from?

    So after 15 years out of college you went for the license, did it make a difference in your paycheck?

    Would you now consider going out on your own?

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    Paul Rathjen

    I don't really wish to share all my personal information. :)  I graduated from the University of Nebraska.  I'm not going after a license in that state though.  I'm not exactly 15 years out of college as I worked for a few years between undergrad and graduate study.  Man maybe it has been 15 years.

     It still makes me old :)  At my firm, which is a firm of about 350 or so architects and engineers, you are encouraged to sign your own work.  There are no traditional principals.  I don't know that I have a strong desire to start my own firm but who knows.  The most important thing getting a license gives you, is validation and mobility in the job market.  You're simply a little bit more marketable because you're actually an architect.  It also give you the opportunity to moonlight if its allowed by your employer.  In my case it is mostly allowed with some disclaimer paperwork as long as its on the up and up.

    I haven't completed registration yet, after you pass the exams you have to go through a whole process.  NCARB evaluates and sends in the information to your state, and then you have to wait for your state to evaluate and then fill out the state paperwork.  Its looking to take 3-4 months.  I only recently passed the exams this last March. 

     

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    William May

    Paul,

    Don't want personal info.  

    What State did you go thru for initial licensure.

    Wait, what is this "evaluation" thing?  What is NCARB "evaluating"? What is the State "Evaluating"?

    You passed the ARE - there shouldn't be any "evaluating".  Is there any possibility that you would not receive your license? 

     

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    Paul Rathjen

    My guess is its just a formality of checking the boxes of internship AXP, passing the exams, verifying school transcripts at NCARB and then that happens at the state level prior to you putting in your application to the state licensing board of your state.  NCARB asks you what state you want to have your passing scores and other info sent too, and then you need to check with your own state on what to do after that.  Its obviously new to me too!

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    William May

    Frankly I don't understand the length of time or what they are checking for.  If you made it to the test you had to go thru the vetting process.  All AXP or IDP would have been verified and the State really shouldn't be needing to verify anything because before you get to take the test all information is checked and verified.  And when you pass the ARE, you pass, it's all electronic.  No human hand or eyes need to be "evaluating" or checking anything - the process of issuing a license should be almost instantaneous.

    So what State do you work and presumably getting your license?

    So if you are expected to sign off on projects are you personally then carrying E & O Insurance?  Are you considered an independent contractor or a direct employee?

     

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    William May

    At my firm, which is a firm of about 350 or so architects and engineers, you are encouraged to sign your own work. There are no traditional principals.

    If there are no traditional principals then how is the firm marketed? 

    If/when I were to get licensed while working for a firm, if I was expected to sign and seal my work, I might as well be on my own.  So are you part of an "S" corp or LLC?  What is the structure of the firm?

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    William May

    The idea of passing all 6 tests on the first try is astounding.  I was reading the NCARB "By the numbers".  In 2017, 20,950 people were testing.  5,094 completed the test.  If we say that 21,000 were testing and 5,100 completed - that's a 24% Pass rate.  So basically it's a 1 out of 4 pass ratio.

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    William May

    You are to be commended - you are in a very small minority.

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    Michael Gilbert (Edited )

    Paul-First, congrats!

    Second - Also curious do you carry your own general and e&o insurance, or is that an umbrella policy carried by the firm, which extends to you as an employee?

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    William May

    Uh, what happened?

    Where did my comments go?

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    William May

    were my comments erased?

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    Michael Gilbert

    I think so... You've been deemed objectionable per the community rules & guidelines pinned post:

     

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