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    William May

    Rodolfo,

    I share your pain ( as I think most do ).  The tests are deplorable when it comes to evaluating what many if not most architects actually do in a practice.  Luck should play no part whatsoever, yet, there is a tremendous amount of luck.  I read a thread that the gist was "hopefully you'll get a "better" test next time".  That to me means that these tests are created not to evaluate but to trip up in unconventional ways how anyone would think in the real world.  

    If architects were honest with how the profession should work, every architect should be required to retest every 5 years.  I would estimate that the profession would become stronger not weaker.  The test would change to be match real world practice.  But that will never happen.  Anyone who is now licensed would most likely not go into the profession knowing that they would be required to retest every 5 years. 

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    Juan Carlos Naranjo Lopez

    Hello, I am 100% agree with you guys, nothing more to say. 

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    Rodolfo Martin

    I don;t know what happened with a message that I was typing. NCARB test if we are good at multiple choice tests. The test does not prove that we are ready for the profession. I failed PjM twice and my performance was completely different. If I overlap the score report, I passed. What I did good the first time, it wasn't good the second time. I study a lot and seriously and I finished the exam expecting a passing score. NCARB only serves to frustrate candidates with this exams.

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    Hang Cho

    I passed 6 out of 9 in 3.0 back early 2000. I had to retake & passed 4 out of 7 in 4.0. I have to retake all except CE again.

    I hope my story will make you feel better & let us continue to hit the wall until it collapse.

    (My ex-principal who retired few years ago said " don't give up & you will get through it eventually.)

     

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    Rodolfo Martin

    Hang,

    Dear Hang, Having studied in my home country, getting to the point that I was allowed to test was very difficult. In 2010, when I was testing ARE 4.0, I got to have 4 passed tests out of 7 (including two of the hardest ones: Structural and Construction Systems, and I also failed some). The circumstances of the economy led me to a different way, far from Architecture and I had to pursue a different certification, nothing related to Architecture, although I continue working in the Architecture field free lance in the same Architecture company that sponsored my visa and green card (I am a citizen now). I did not find the time and energy to complete the reminding 3 exams and I lost them. I was working more than 12 hours a day. A couple of years ago, I came back to architecture full time and I restarted the ARE process last June and I have pass only one test (C&E), which is almost identical to PjM that I failed last Monday for a second time. I do not understand. I was well prepared. I studies a lot. I have expend a lot of money in testing. NCARB does not respond and ignores my messages when I contact them to request specific information: I am not sure if I have to enter the comas in the numerical answers that deal with thousands and millons and I am begging to be allow to use a regular calculator because I do not see the one n the screen very well. I contacted NCARB through their message system and they do not reply. I also have talked to a member in their custumer service number and that person, Lorenzo, provided me with a wrong email address to contact an office that I later knew that it did not exist. NCARB does not help.

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    Julie Brown

    Rodolfo,

    I can at least answer your question about the commas! They don't matter in how you enter numerical answers. See older post with official comment by an NCARB moderator:

    https://are5community.ncarb.org/hc/en-us/community/posts/115006798007-Fill-in-the-blank-Commas

     

    Julie

     

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    Rodolfo Martin

    Thank you Julie.

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    Hang Cho (Edited )

    Rodolfo

    I just read your response.

    Happy we have many common grounds - I took PcM this morning & probably failed.

    I will take PcM again soon untill I pass near future & move on to the next.

    My greatest regret for my past - I should not stop-p-p-p-ed back then!!!

    Have a nice weekend & see you around untill finish exam & maybe see you in competition of good project ^^!!!.

    FYI, I am in my office alone to study...

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