PcM Pass

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    Arjeta Boshti

    Congratulations Andrea!! You mentioned the use of Wiley outline for PcM. Did you study only the chapters and pages they suggested or did you read all of the chapter. For example for chapter one, on Wiley it states pages 3, 13 and 21. Did you study just those recommended sections or all of chapter 1?

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    Michael Lawson

    Congrats to you Andrea! And to Arjeta, I would recommend this guide as well from Kevin Griendling. That and the Wiley one together make for a fantastic way to go through the AHPP for PcM, PjM, and CE. Both guides reinforce the important concepts to focus on while giving you a broad understanding of everything else important to practice. Good luck! 

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    Andrea Hendrickson

    Chapter 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17 - I read everything 

    Chapter 6, 8, 11, 14, 15 - I read only what was recommended by Wiley - This was purely a time strategy thing - if I was giving myself more than 4 weeks I may have read all of the chapters. That being said I felt well prepared with what I did and didn't think I was missing any huge concepts.

    Yes exactly Michael, I also compared the too. So Arjeta for example Kevins guide said to read chapter 6 lightly (yellow). And Wiley only had a few pages it said to read so I just read what was recommended by Wiley and moved on. 

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    John Peterson

    Congrats!!

    For the AHPP - did you study from the 14th or 15th edition?? My firm has the 14th but feels like the 2 are very different...

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    Eric Hessler

    Congrats.

    How long have you been in the industry?   

    I'm finally getting ready to start taking them.  I've been in the industry a LONG time but never needed to take the exams.  Also looking back i was probably a little brainwashed in thinking i wasn't "Needed" to take them.  Anyways that is besides the point.

    Looks like you spent a little over a month on this one and was trying to gauge if there is much real life applications in the testing.  I've heard 5.0 is geared more towards people that have been out in the industry a while.  But that could just be hears se.  Thanks

     

     

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    Joel Edwards

    Being in the profession for 10 years definitely helped me pass PcM on the first try without as much studying as other people on here have allotted.

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    Eric Hessler

    Thanks,

    And how many exams have you taken so far. 

    Been in the industry for about 20 years now and have dealt with most every aspect of the profession in one fashion or the other. 

    Not going to take anything for granted especially the fact that everybody has different experiences but good idea to gauge. 

    Once i start taking the exams i want to give myself 6-7 months to complete but obviously i think some i can take a little sooner than 1 a month.  But i won't know that until i get taken them.  

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    Joel Edwards

    I have only taken PcM so far. I gave myself a good month and a half to study for it. Planning on taking PjM sometime in middle March.

    Spend time taking all the practice tests you can. They will help prepare you to look for quirky ways the exam tries to test your knowledge.

    Since you have been at it for 20 years, I would probably spend less time reading and more time familiarizing yourself with the general ideas that everyone has posted on here to study.

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    Eric Hessler

    @Joel,

    Good thoughts.  I will definitely consider that.  Appreciate your thoughts and good luck.  

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    Andrea Hendrickson

    @John - it's the 15th edition. Not sure how the two compare but it was my main source of information. Bring it up to them and see if they are willing to either upgrade or support you in some way. 

    @Eric - I've been working full time for 1.5 years. Before that I interned every summer and Christmas break after my second year of school. So a decent bit of knowledge but not immense-especially when it comes to PcM my knowledge of the inner workings of an office, the right contracts or means and methods are not what I've had great experience in. It will definitely help you that you have so much experience but there are warnings I have read that you must know how NCARB asks and wants the answer not how your office would approach it. During practice tests that messed with me a bit. Just inner dealings with clients (go/no go methods, etc.) where I knew how my firm would respond and that wasn't always the "right" answer. So to what Joel said I would definitely start with practice tests to gauge what concepts you know and what you don't. 6-7 months should be a perfect amount of time. I plan on taking PjM and CE next which the information is said to be very similar. 

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    William May

    I'm taking this test as my first test.  I'm accepting the premise that I will likely fail but trying to be positive that I might pass.  I have my own firm and have been in business for roughly 19 years.  I do Residential work that doesn't need stamped but also do commercial work with licensed architects.

    I often wonder, people with 5 year and MA degrees are failing.  It makes me wonder what they paid for their education if they can't pass these tests.

    Any comments would be appreciated.

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