Failed with one 3 and four 2's. So close!!

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    Scott Barber

    Sorry to hear that, Brittany! Sounds like you were very close, I'm sure that next time you'll be able to finish with a pass. Knowing what to expect and being able to focus on your weaker areas for the next time around will be a great benefit.

    I would suggest continuing with CE, and then taking PjM again. I took these two very close together (along with PcM), and they are fairly similar. CE has a lot of contract questions, so the studying you do for that will help you for PjM next time.

    In my experience, one of the biggest benefits was sticking with it and not slowing down or taking breaks in my studying. The one time I did take a break (after PPD and PDD, before PA) I had a really hard time getting motivation to get back to studying. I felt weakest going into PA because I just couldn't get back in the routine, even though it was just a 2-3 week break. That could just be me, but I've seen a few others mention that and I think giving yourself a couple days off (through the weekend maybe) and then sticking with your study routine will help you get through these exams. I see people that take months off between exams and I couldn't imagine doing that myself, getting in and out of the routine and habit of studying. I wanted to get the exams over with, so I sacrificed my personal time for a few months and got them done quickly.
    I studied for PcM, PjM, and CE for 5 weeks and then passed them within 10 days of each other. They were my last exams and I wanted to get them done. I wouldn't suggest that schedule for most people, but I typically suggest studying 4-6 weeks total, and taking them 2 weeks apart each with no breaks. 

    It's ultimately up to you, but I'd suggest only taking a few days off, studying for CE 4 weeks, and then taking PjM again 2 weeks after that. That may be intimidating, but I think it's a realistic timeline if you're dedicated to your studying (even just 1-2 hours a day). 

    You know yourself best, so don't let me push you into making a bad decision, but I'd encourage you to stick with it if you can, and keep making progress. Even if you can get through these 3 and then take a break, it'd be helpful since they have a decent amount of overlap.

    Good luck!

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    Brittany Varengo (Edited )

    Thanks Scott! I took a week off after the PcM and struggled getting back into things. Probably because I took my time studying for the exam and I got burned out.

    Anyway, I took this past week to try to relax, rest my brain and talked with coworkers about the contracts and any questions I had. I think I will schedule CM next and keep studying the contracts. That  way when my 60 days is up I'll be ready to retake PjM. 

    Any tips you could give me for contract studying or for the CM exam? Like I mentioned in my previous post I studied the AIA contracts with Schiff Harden lectures 2-3x and one of them was following along with his print out and taking notes over notes. I also looked and read through the other contracts the handbook suggests. I have to look through the community boards for the CM exam and any other tips people give along with the handbook resources. I just cant lose motivation!!

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    Lemuel Guidos

    Don’t forget that the contracts were updated and October 1, ARE will reflect those 2017 contracts. I haven’t taken a look at the comparisons but I saw somewhere that the changes were minor. I saw the Hardin lectures for 2018 are about the 2017 contracts. 

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    Brittany Varengo

    Yeah I saw that update was going to happen soon which was another reason why I wanted to get that pass haha! I'll definitely be looking into the new contracts for the upcoming exams. 

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    Scott Barber

    Glad you could take the time you needed - everyone is different so as long as you know what works best for you between exams that's great!

    The best thing for studying the contracts for me was the Schiff Hardin lectures. I listened to them multiple times leading up to my exams, which helped me feel comfortable knowing and understanding them. I'm not sure what else people use to study - his lectures worked well for me but I'm sure there are other options out there other than reading the contracts.

    Good luck!

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    Kurt Fanderclai

    Schiff Hardin -- I'd agree with Scott -- those lectures are just so great.

    I have to wonder if the Schiff Hardin folks realize the influence they've had on the hapless candidates of the ARE...?  When I tested, I listened to an older version than the most recent, and I don't remember anything that would indicate that the lecturer (Hannihan?) thought he was  doing anything other than running a class and recording it for student use.

     

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    Scott Barber

    I listened to the 2017 lectures and he said a few things that at least showed he knew others listened to it. He didn't make it through one of the contracts so he said something like "to anyone listening for the ARE, you can listen to the 2016 lectures because I got all the way through the contract last year" and a couple other things like that. 

    Either way, it was all I used to "study" the contracts other than reading them once or twice. He covered everything so well and thoroughly that I didn't feel the need to look at anything else.

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    Kurt Fanderclai

    Also -- for PcM, PjM, and CE.....although some candidates seem to want to avoid this, actually reading the contracts is going to be necessary.  They really aren't very long, and it's pretty tough to understand the ins and outs without sitting down and giving them some undivided attention.

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