PjM NCARB Practice Exam - Question 4 Answer

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    Michael Ermann

    There are three flavors of CM: -advisor, -agent, and -constructor …and only in the last option is the CM also the builder…in all three, the CM comes into the project early and assists the architect and owner in issues related to budget, scheduling, bidding, and buildability…with CM as advisor and CM as agent delivery, there is both a construction manager and a separate

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    Yifan Tao

    Hi Michael, thanks for your input. It looks like perhaps you didn't finish your thought there; I assume you were going to say "and a separate GC?"

    I understand the CM advisor would make sense and I was actually leaning towards that option at first until I reread the question and saw that it mentioned IPD, in which case a GC would be hired at the onset of design to assist the A and O; so I eliminated the CM option based on that.

    I guess I'm just overall a little frustrated by the wording on a question like this, and this might be more of a question to NCARB, but what sort of reasoning would one need in order to get to the answer where both a GC and CM should be hired based on the available information? The rationale given under the "correct responses" section is even written exactly the same for both GC and CM.

    I hope the actual exam would be more clear cut as people have noted in other posts. 

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    Michael Ermann

    Good point

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    Zahra Mosavat

    Good point Yifan,

    During exam , I see so many question like this.

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    Christopher Hopstock

    Hi Yifan -

    This question is a little off in my opinion, and I think that your thought process is spot on.  That's what's most important - that you're thinking about these questions correctly to give yourself the best chance to get them correct.  You don't need 100% to pass!  Let's break down the question.

    Firstly, you're right that with IPD, the three parties are going to be Owner, Architect, and Contractor, not CM (see AHPP fig. 9.1 & page 532).  In my opinion, having a CM in addition to the contractor sort of undermines the goals of IPD - the OAC team is supposed to work together with mutual respect and trust, collaboration, clear communication, so why do we need an outside CM to add to the mix?

    Anyway, the key phrase here that the question writer included to make CM a correct answer is 'the work is to be executed in multiple phases'.  On the ARE, whenever you see 'multiple phases', think CM - it's as simple as that.  It's possible to have an IPD project with a CM-advisor / CM-agent, although as I said earlier I think it's a bit odd. 

    Good luck on your next exam!!

    Chris Hopstock RA
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    Yifan Tao

    Hi Chris, thanks for responding - your explanation of the multiple phases sounds pretty spot on. And great tip for how to think about the CM for the exam, cheers! 

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    Ulises Bea

    Yifan, 

    I get a bump in same question regarding GC, running thru Contracts I remeber some diagram from AIA website, where IPD stablishes subcontractors for IPD, besides CM...

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    David Wagner

    I got this this correct on my first try by eliminating the two wrong answers. A lighting designer does not need to be hired prior to SD and there is no mention of the need for a Commissioning Agent in the brief.

    While I agree that the CM seems redundant in an IPD arrangement, they are not without use, and if you were to hire them you would want to do so at the beginning of the project.

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