Prepping for C&E

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    Kurt Fanderclai (Edited )

    Steven, good to hear you went ahead and scheduled another!

    Couple thoughts on CE:

    This one you need to really understand the contracts.  Make sure you read through each of the 10 or so referenced and understand them.  It's not about memorizing every 7, 10, 30 day clause, but rather how the contracts apply to situations.

    I read the Project Resource Manual: CSI -- long, and not sure it was worth it.

    Have you listened to these?  You can easily find the applicable lectures -- like B101 and A201.  

     

     

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    Steven Dumont (Edited )

    Kurt,

    Yes, I took the good advice and went ahead with scheduling this one. I was going to take Project Management, but my state AIA chapter has study guides and did not have that one available, so I thought what the heck.

    I have downloaded the Schiff Hardin/ Hanahan lectures (if that's what you are referencing?), and listened to some of them. I will focus on those two specifically.

    Thanks.

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    Kurt Fanderclai

    http://www.schiffhardin.com/professionals/attorneys/d-i/hanahan-michael-j/hanahan-lecture-notes-2017 

    Indeed I was referencing those...   the link didn't post, and I can't get back into it!  the B101 and A201 were the ones I listened to, but there may be a couple other good ones as well.

    Contracts!

    Good Luck!

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    Magdalena Balian

    I took the CE exam yesterday and in preparation I studied the A201, B101 & C401 contracts as well as several other AIA forms relevant to construction closeout. I also read through CSI's Construction Contract Administration Practice Guide (its really similar to all the information you can learn straight from the contracts but I found it helpful to read it in a format that was not so contractually worded).

    I've read a lot of comments in other posts saying this exam is based primarily on the contracts, and I would say in my experience I had many (more than I anticipated) photo/diagram hot spot type questions that had a lot more to do with construction observation/building systems rather than contract procedures & protocols - stuff I would expect to find on the PPD and PDD exams. That's just my impression.

    CE was my second exam too after PcM and I felt like I had more time to go back and review my answers with this one. Still waiting for my results, hope it's a pass.

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    Michelle NCARB

    Great reminder from Magdalena!  Don't forget to look at the section breakdown in the ARE 5.0 Handbook.  Roughly one third of C&E content is in Section 2, Construction Observation.

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    Steven Dumont

    Thanks everyone! Really helpful information. 

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    Nancy Redenius

    Hi Steven, 

    I don't know what level of experience you have with CA, but I found it helpful to read bidding documents and Division 01 of the specifications for a project within my firm (neither of which I had previous experience with). While reading them I came across terms and concepts that hadn't been covered in my other study materials and that did end up coming up in the exam. I would recommend that if like me you have limited experience with that stage of a project. 

    Like Magdalena, I also had more construction detail questions than I expected. I would freshen up on typical details. I also had a surprising number of questions on door hardware (I hope that's not giving away more than we are supposed to), so if I were doing it again I would study door hardware and how it relates to egress, which wasn't something I would have thought to study otherwise.

    Good luck!

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    Juliann Chen

    Hi Steven,

    I just took the C&E test today, and there were many questions on the basic fundamental contract (A201 and B101). However, these were available as a resource in the case study - so feel free to refer to them when needed. Still, best to already understand them without the luxury of having them as a resource because time is so constricting!

    It's important to understand in detail how the contract works within specific situations. 

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    Steven Dumont

    So I've been using Brightwood's C&E study guide. Anyone else used that? It feels like they just cut and pasted most of what was in their Practice Management guide. I am literally reading the same things over. Is the exam that similar?

    I'll also be heavily studying the A201 & B101, and listening to the Schiff Hardin/ Hanahan lectures.

    Wish me luck!

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    Brittany Cain

    Steven - I feel like the Project management brightwood was a copy and paste also. I stopped reading half-way through and went to the Ballast Study Materials - and that says something, I am the person who if there is study material I will read it all for that one extra piece of knowledge. 

    for PjM and PcM I really enjoyed the pluralsight videos. 

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