Thursday’s 6pm ET Zoom session is titled, “Psycrometric Chart.”

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    Samira Sheikholeslami

    Hello, do you mind sharing the answer as well for some of us who missed the session? 

    Thank you so much!!!!!! 

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    Michele Pfeiffer

    Hello: Unfortunately, I missed the Zoom session. Is the session recorded for use? I'd like to review it.

    Michele

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    mermann

    Hard to say. . . The "real" correct answer: 

    A: Roof ponds

    B: Ceiling fans, operable windows, or dehumidifier unit

    C: None of the choices are great, but roof ponds is the best one. 

    NCARB's answers are different (and incorrect). You can see them in the PPD practice exam, I think at number sixty-something.

    The lightly-edited video of the Zoom call you missed can be found in Amber Book PPD flash cards, number 187.

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    Lillian Marin-Saenz

    It is very disappointing to know that some of these questions are wrong. We need NCARB to take a deeper look into these.

    Thanks Michael for all your videos. 

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    jfairbanks

    I’m studying this psychrometric stuff now. I think Mermann’s answers are wrong. How can a Roof Pond effect WBT inside. I think System A corresponds to Ceiling Fans as they move air around and air movement promotes evaporative cooling inside and the shape of system A is clearly following the WBT lines. No?

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    Ralph Hale

    Hi jfairbanks, 

    I'm not entirely convinced by all those answers either - you'll be glad to know though that since drag-and-drop questions have been eliminated, that question isn't on the practice exam anymore, and there's not really a way to test on a topic like that that requires you to know all of those things without the help of some process of elimination.  There have been some improvements made since 2022!

    A is a bit too hot and too dry - comfort is improved with evaporative cooling.  Ceiling fans do promote evaporative cooling, I think you're more right there than Michael is.  Roof ponds are really more a thermal mass thing than they are a direct evaporative cooling thing.  B is a little too humid and a little too hot - air movement will help promote evaporative cooling, especially natural ventilation so that air changes remove the excess humidity.  Operable windows would be best, a dehumidifier and fan would probably also work.  C is very hot and a little dry.  That zone is usually labelled something like "mass cooling + night ventilation" - so you'd need something like the roof pond plus operable windows, really - as Michael notes, none of the answers are great, the roof pond is about as good as possible among the available answers.  

    There's a labelled psychrometric chart here, there's more discussion in the Ladybug plugin forum with images here, and ClimateConsultant is a great piece of free software to pull up actual climate data and see the impact those kinds of design decisions can have on reducing the number of hours a year a building will need mechanical cooling or heating for.  There's a youtube video showing the basics of ClimateConsultant for psychrometric charts here

    Happy studying, 
    Ralph, the Amber Book Team

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    Ralph Hale

    To follow up - the Society of Building Science Educators has a whole page of Energy Design Tools, including Climate Consultant and a couple of tutorials about psychrometric charts here: https://energy-design-tools.sbse.org/.  You may find it useful!

    Cheers,
    Ralph, the Amber Book Team

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